What are the Loony Lefties Up To?
So I’ve been stuck cleaning my room here (note: a mess that I didn’t even make, as my ‘rents made it as I was away at school–but I’m still responsible). I’ve got the radio on and Rush is currently on (it’s the best thing on now–local radio sux). El Rushbo, is hammering away at Tom “Puff” Dashle (D-SD), on the tax cut (somewhat like an audio fisking at times), so he gave me an idea…let’s see what Brandeis’ loony leftists are up to now!
The latest emails are about the (lying, anti-Israel) NYT journalist Chris Hedges, who (rightfully) got booed off the stage at Rockford Colleges commencement for giving an offensive anti-war speech.
So first from the “Students for a Just Society list” we have the following comments:
This is the text of the graduation speech given at Rockford College in Illinois by Chris Hedges of the New York Times. He was booed off the stage because he said all the same things we were saying before the war. Seems people still don’t want to hear it, eh?
You know what, you’re right! People didn’t and still don’t want to hear your anti-American propaganda and BS arguments (many of which are fabrications). For example, the argument one that UN sanctions killed Iraqi children…which was DEBUNKED by Iraqi doctors. Didn’t you fools learn when Professor Cohen shot down Ben Brandzel ’03 at “Ben and Jerry”? You should’ve been parying attention. Oh and a “PS” the war in Iraq…it’s over.
Then from Gordie’s “concerned” list….
Imagine being in the audience at this kind of commencement address
Okay, I’m imagining….and I think I’d be booing like my peers. But wait, isn’t this what you “progressives” constantly do?
Shall we nominate Hedges for an honorary degree here?
NO! NO! NO! Our school motto is “truth unto it’s innermost parts” this NYT liar is a contradiction of that term. Plus his vehimently Anti-Israel rhetoric is not representative of Brandeis. (And that’s being polite).
Those were Gordy’s “words of enlightenment” and then came the forwarded email text:
It’s a great speech, one of the best I’ve read recently. Even tho he was apparently treated badly by many students and parents, it gives us hope that not all in the media are lapdogs for Bush. Some of us will persevere
This guy needs to get out ot his ivory tower. It was a bad speech, full of lies and falsehoods, and derrogatory statements. The latter reason is why it angered so many students and parents.
No, not all in the media are “lapdogs for Bush”….where’d you come up with that idea? Ever read the NYT? LA Times? Globe? ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN? They’re anything but “lapdogs” for Bush (or any other conservatives) in fact they’re the opposite. Open up your eyes (and ears maybe).
So let’s look at the text of the speech and find what could’ve angered people: Keep in mind, this was supposed to be a commencement address.
For we are embarking on an occupation that, if history is any guide, will be as damaging to our souls as it will be to our prestige, power, and security.
Not an occupaation. This strengthens our country and our security.
But this will come later as our empire expands and in all this we become pariahs, tyrants to others weaker than ourselves
We’re not empire building you yutz, and we were going after the ones who made us targets (trans. Terrorists). .
Isolation always impairs judgment and we are very isolated now. We have forfeited the good will, the empathy the world felt for us after
Um, Coalition of the Willing had 60+ countries…how is that Isolation? We haven’t forefitted the good will either, crackhead.
We have folded in on ourselves, we have severely weakened the delicate international coalitions and alliances that are vital in maintaining and promoting peace
I think that’s the way that the “liberal elites” say: “UN”—which deserved to crash and burn already.
we are part now of a dubious troika in the war against terror with Vladimir Putin and Ariel Sharon, two leaders who do not shrink in Palestine or Chechnya from carrying out acts of gratuitous and senseless acts of violence. We have become the company we keep.
WOAH! Hold on there! Where is this “Palestine” you speak of? There is no such land. Nor are Israel’s raids against terrorists “gratutious and senseless acts of violence”!?!? What’s blowing up a bus with men, women and children on it called? Or killing a 10 month old baby with a sniper rifle as she sits in her father’s arms (Shalhevet Pas)? That’s not senseless? You Robert Fisk sycophant.
The censure and perhaps the rage of much of the world, certainly one-fifth of the world’s population which is Muslim, most of whom I’ll remind you are not Arab, is upon us.
No, only the radical Islamofacists. Remember all the happy Iraqis that we saw when we liberated ’em?
And this rage in a world where almost 50 percent of the planet struggles on less than two dollars a day will see us targeted.
Under tyrants, communism and socialism–not under capitalism.
Terrorism will become a way of life, and when we are attacked we will, like our allies Putin and Sharon, lash out with greater fury.
Ya know why? Cause it’s us or them…and we’re gonna kick their asses and show ’em American Justice.
just because we have the capacity to wage war it does not give us the right to wage war
We have the right to protect ourselves and our allies.
The real injustices, the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land
Bullshit. (Gives the guy the finger). Somebody fetch B.C.–this guy is getting annoying.
the brutal and corrupt dictatorships we fund in the Middle East, will mean that we will not rid the extremists who hate us with bombs
Okay, no more cash to Egypt, Lebanon, Fraudi Arabia…sounds good to me….oh, same goes for the PLO. We’ll rid the extremists by any means necessary.
We have blundered into a nation we know little about and are caught between bitter rivalries and competing ethnic groups and leaders we do not understand
Outside of Foggy Bottom we understand it. Hence the reason why we have the INC.
We are trying to transplant a modern system of politics invented in Europe characterized, among other things, by the division of earth into independent secular states based on national citizenship in a land where the belief in a secular civil government is an alien creed. Iraq was a cesspool for the British when they occupied it in 1917; it will be a cesspool for us as well
Times have changed since the British occupation. Oh, and the system of politics has worked in Israel….that was once a land under British rule. You’re really striking out here you howling moonbat.
Christian Evangelical groups who are being allowed to follow on the heels of our occupying troops to try and
teach Muslims about Jesus.
What about you “human shields” and others in ANSWER who supported Saddamy?
Hedges stops speaking because of a disturbance in the audience
Wasn’t me…. don’t look here…
The occupation of the oil fields
To prevent saddam from bombing ’em and an enviromental disaster and protecting the funds that’ll be used to rebuild Iraq.
The looting of Baghdad, or let me say the looting of Baghdad with the exception of the oil ministry and theinterior ministry — the only two ministries we bothered protecting — is self immolation
Like the looting of the art museum that the NYT fudge numbers on? Did Jason Blair write that story? Oh, and it was an inside job too. Also, what’s wrong with looting Saddam’s palaces, the stuff belongs to the people.
As someone who knows Iraq, speaks Arabic, and spent seven years in the Middle East,
Go inflate your ego you moonbat.
It was Israel who created Hezbollah and was Hezbollah that pushed Israel out of Southern Lebanon.
Wrong again: Iran and Syria created Hezbollah, and still supply it. The Israelies withdrew b/c of a peace accord and UN resolution (and int’l pressure). You ignoramus.
And if you watch closely what is happening in Iraq, if you can see it through the abysmal coverage, you can see it in
the lashing out of the terrorist death squads
Lashing out of the terror death squads? You mean the ones we’ve captured or killed?
We will pay for this, but what saddens me most is that those who will by and large pay the highest price are poor kids from Mississippi or Alabama orTexas who could not get a decent job or health insurance and joined the army because it was all we offered them
You’re implying southern youth are too stupid or inept to get jobs, aren’t you? Huh? That’s a bunch a BS. You elitiest New Yorker…saying all there good for is the army? Huh? What if they chose to serve their country as proud Americans? (I know he doesn’t like that line)
Following our defeat in Vietnam we became a better nation
How? Carter took office? Only when Ronaldus Maximus came into the White House did we become a better nation (cause we won the Cold War)!!!
We were humbled, even humiliated. We asked questions about ourselves we had not asked before.
Like why the hell were we fighting a war that we wern’t allowed to win? We had such strict ROE that it handicapped us. But we ultimately won the war.
We were forced to confront our own capacity for a atrocity — for evil
You mean as humans? No, we confronted it after WWII.
War, we have come to believe, is a spectator sport
Um, only if war is football. It’s not a sport and we loathe it as much as you do, but we believe that there are times when we water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants. (Quoting Jefferson).
The military and the press — remember in wartime the press is always part of the problem
Yes, the NYT and BBC, publishing lies and falsehoods about what happened was a problem.
turned war into a vast video arcade game
No, only in arcades.
Its very essence — death — is hidden from public view.
No. Fox News showed the names and pictures of the fallen American heroes. We realize death, and it’s ultimate costs.Take off your blinders.
Because we no longer understand war, we no longer understand that it can all go horribly wrong
Yeah we do. We still have blue-on-blue fire. We’ve seen things FUBARed. Case in point–Mogadishu (Black Hawk Down).
And at a time of soaring deficits
From overspending by the Federal gov’t. Let’s cut some expenditures. Let’s take away KKK Byrd and Teddy Kennedy’s pork first. And let’s have a TAX CUT to increase federal revenue.
and financial scandals and the very deterioration of our domestic fabric, war is a fine diversion
This ain’t wag the dog, nor does it have anything to do with Enron. That’s old news. Deterioration of domestic fabric? Huh? You mean the lack of morals in society these days? Or the hyper-PCness being preached?
(A man in the audience says: “Can I say a few words here?” Hedges: Yeah, when I finish.)
No! I say let the man speak and prove you to be the asshat that you are Hedges.
Once in war, the conflict obliterates the past and the future all is one heady intoxicating present. You feel every heartbeat in war, colors are brighter, your mind races ahead of itself.
(Confusion, microphone problems, etc.)
What? Did Frank J’s“BIll the Marine” enter?
We feel in wartime comradeship. (Boos)
No Comerade–we beat the USSR. We feeel brotherly bonds with other Americans, except you “anti-war” pro-dictator creeps.
We confuse this with friendship, with love. There are those who will insist that the comradeship of war is love — the exotic glow that makes us in war feel as one people, one entity, is real, but this is part of war’s intoxication.
This guy is spewing more BS then a sociology professor! he’s totally wrong. Ask a member of the Armed forces about their bonds with their fellow troops….they’ll set you straight.
Think back on the days after the attacks on 9-11. Suddenly we no longer felt alone; we connected with strangers, even with people we did not like
Mostly true, except for the last part. I didn’t feel connected with any Islamofacists.
We felt we belonged, that we were somehow wrapped in the embrace of the nation, the community; in short, we no longer felt alienated
We didn’t feel alienated before…most of us at least.
As this feeling dissipated in the weeks after the attack
No, it didn’t dissipate, rather true-patriotic Americans stayed close together and formed stronger bonds.
The danger of the external threat that comes when we have an enemy does not create friendship; it creates comradeship
NYET! When an external threat rears it’s damn ugly head, we become brothers and sisters, members of a family dedicated to protecting what’s ours and our siblings.
And those in wartime are deceived about what they are undergoing
Friends probe and question and challenge each other to make each of us more complete; with comradeship,
thekind that comes to us in patriotic fervor, there is a suppression of self-awareness, self-knowledge, and self-possession.
Friends trust their lives with their fellow friends, comrades don’t. In the armed forces people are friends…not “comerades”. And don’t debase patriotism…you can be proud of the USA, and be self-aware, knowledgable adn self-possesive.
In comradeship there are no demands on the self
Comerad–that is because Mother Russia does everything for you. True friendship and the bonds of brotherhood established in our fighting forces is on a totally higher level, because it demands a lot of oneself.
We ennoble self-sacrifice for the other, for the comrade;
We mourn their passing and the sacrifices they have made for the rest of us.
in short we begin to worship death
No we don’t! We just honor their memory and contributions.
For friends, dying is hard and bitter
It is too for soldiers. Just ask any war vet.
Friends do not, the way comrades do, love death and sacrifice. To friends, the
prospect of death is frightening
Damn you! No body loves death besides sick tyrannical dictators. Soldiers abhor death and sacrifice, but they do what they know they must do, so idiots like you can speak freely. To almost all, the prospect of death is frightening–were it not, it would be a sad day.
And this is why friendship or, let me say love, is the most potent enemy of war
Aww…the hell with you! Go back to the 60s (cause you wanna be there). We love America, we want to see it safe, so we sometimes have to go to war, for this country we love.
Are you implying that we should love those who hate us? Love an Islamofacist? What did you smoke today?
What kind of commencement address was that? What are the students gonna take from it? They missed an oppertunity to get a great speech.
(Boos cheers, shouts, fog horns and the like)
That’s more fitting I’d think….